Comments on: On the Salaita Decision https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2014/08/22/on-the-salaita-decision/ Culture, Politics, Academia and Other Shiny Objects Fri, 29 Aug 2014 19:29:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.15 By: Callie https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2014/08/22/on-the-salaita-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-72708 Fri, 29 Aug 2014 19:29:09 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2679#comment-72708 The AAUP position on academic freedom should be our default. The administrative
aspects of this might be subsumed under the sort of rubric presented by Benjamin
Ginsberg in The fall of the faculty (Oxford, 2011). We might speculate on the
Chancellor’s motivations by “following the money.”

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By: Barry https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2014/08/22/on-the-salaita-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-72697 Mon, 25 Aug 2014 23:50:02 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2679#comment-72697 OK.

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By: Timothy Burke https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2014/08/22/on-the-salaita-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-72696 Mon, 25 Aug 2014 19:22:30 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2679#comment-72696 In reply to Barry.

Probably best to leave that particular exchange at that, yes?

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By: Barry https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2014/08/22/on-the-salaita-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-72695 Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:18:59 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2679#comment-72695 “Barry, I understand where you’re coming from. And when folks like you stop intentionally mischaracterizing other people’s arguments, then “fair and balanced” blah blah blah unicorns and rainbows, whatever. Until then, go back to Reddit or Stormfront or wherever this particular brand of rhetoric is still appreciated.”

English, please?

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By: Joey Headset https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2014/08/22/on-the-salaita-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-72693 Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:32:44 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2679#comment-72693 “Joey, I understand where you’re coming from. And when people who support Israeli ethnic cleansing are under similar sanctions, that would be a fair and balanced and honest thing. Until then, it’s not.”

Barry, I understand where you’re coming from. And when folks like you stop intentionally mischaracterizing other people’s arguments, then “fair and balanced” blah blah blah unicorns and rainbows, whatever. Until then, go back to Reddit or Stormfront or wherever this particular brand of rhetoric is still appreciated.

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By: Barry https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2014/08/22/on-the-salaita-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-72691 Sun, 24 Aug 2014 12:11:06 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2679#comment-72691 Tim, a comment on what you wrote – it’s true that the Salaita Principle will require more management time and energy and money. The trick is:

1) Management *always* has the time, energy and money for what they want. They’ll probably hire more vice-whatevers (and staff), and spend more money on this, but they’ll do it.

2) The real Salaita Principle is that *liberals and leftist* are not to be hire. I’ll buy you a nice bottle of wine when a public university ‘de-hires’ a professor for using bad language in support of Israel (and by that I mean supporting *anything* that Israel does). That’s easy, because internet searches are easy, and the pro-Israel groups will do a lot of this work.

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By: Barry https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2014/08/22/on-the-salaita-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-72690 Sun, 24 Aug 2014 11:57:35 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2679#comment-72690 BTW, in light of the BDS movement, can anybody apply the *stated*standards of Cary Nelson to allow any scholars affiliated with or supportive of the government of Israel to speak at a campus in the USA?

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By: Barry https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2014/08/22/on-the-salaita-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-72689 Sun, 24 Aug 2014 11:56:16 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2679#comment-72689 Sorry: http://www.cary-nelson.org/nelson/horowitz-nelson-debate.html

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By: Barry https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2014/08/22/on-the-salaita-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-72688 Sun, 24 Aug 2014 11:55:22 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2679#comment-72688 Here’s another viewpoint: “What most upset me about the 101 Professors volume and still does — I don’t know everyone covered in that book, but a number of the people I’ve known for 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, a long period of time and I am familiar with a whole range of work that they’ve produced as scholars.

When I attempt to evaluate their careers, when I attempt to evaluate their contributions to higher education, I’m concerned with the whole range of things that they’ve done. What’s their life work? Where does the main weight of their intellectual professional and moral commitments lie? What’s the full range of things that they’ve done?

That’s largely a book in which for many of those people their primary works of scholarship are simply set aside and ignored. Occasional political comments are taken out of context sometimes, letters to the editor, you know, occasional political interventions and their entire lives — and their meaning and their presence in American culture is evaluated on the basis of those occasional statements. That to me, as a scholar, was a fundamental violation of fairness.

I expect to look at the full range of someone’s work and to evaluate their careers in their entirety.”

by Cary Nelson (http://www.cary-nelson.org/nelson/horowitz-nelson-debate.html)

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By: Barry https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2014/08/22/on-the-salaita-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-72687 Sun, 24 Aug 2014 11:54:24 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2679#comment-72687 Joey, I understand where you’re coming from. And when people who support Israeli ethnic cleansing are under similar sanctions, that would be a fair and balanced and honest thing. Until then, it’s not.

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