Comments on: War and Understanding https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2013/09/23/war-and-understanding/ Culture, Politics, Academia and Other Shiny Objects Wed, 02 Oct 2013 21:48:18 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.15 By: Edwin https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2013/09/23/war-and-understanding/comment-page-1/#comment-72382 Wed, 02 Oct 2013 21:48:18 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2444#comment-72382 I agree that the “war on” PR term is dead and does not elicit the type of awareness and community action necessary to deal with a problem. I mean, who wants to go to war?

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By: Timothy Burke https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2013/09/23/war-and-understanding/comment-page-1/#comment-72370 Sun, 29 Sep 2013 21:16:43 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2444#comment-72370 Provinces, I think that’s a very good and challenging observation, and a fair critique of the rhetoric of this post.

I suppose I would say that even if there is considerable money and privilege involved in some of these networks, they are also fed in some places by feelings of marginalization and despair–both al-Shabab and Boko Haram, for example. But there is something bigger here. I really, really do not think it is Islam. I think instead that there’s a kind of sensation of alienation that is spreading worldwide even in ostensibly liberal or wealthy societies, a sense that nothing we do matters, that the powers that rule the world are no longer responsive to their own people or to anything principled. That feeling of despair is expressed very differently in different places and has different consequences within different local and regional histories. If I argue that Somalia etc. need a different political dispensation as an outcome of a “war” against terrorism, I do not mean in the simple sense of a chicken in every pot or freedom from want. What they need are communities that feel that they matter, elites who are part of the wider society, a government which is responsive to its people and has a genuine vision of a better future. They need it, we need it.

The “war” in some sense may need to be the next campaign in what William McNeill referred to as the endless struggle against “macroparasites”. I’m edging uncomfortably close to Negri and Hardt’s Empire here, a book that I really do not agree with, but their diagnosis of the global moment has some things to recommend it.

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By: In the provinces https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2013/09/23/war-and-understanding/comment-page-1/#comment-72369 Sun, 29 Sep 2013 18:29:23 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2444#comment-72369 Your comments about Al Shabab run in the direction of asserting that such terrorist groups are a consequence of poverty and despair. But there are well-funded backers of terrorism in places like Saudi Arabia or Pakistan. The global spread of Wahabbi Islam, which is closely related to the founding of groups that do things like hijack airplanes, blow up buildings and shoot up shopping malls, has been very well financed. So your analysis needs some expansion and emendations.

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By: Withywindle https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2013/09/23/war-and-understanding/comment-page-1/#comment-72367 Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:19:09 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2444#comment-72367 And yet, if you were willing to argue the other side of the question, it would be interesting to read your five-page memo on which uses of force would best aid us (in a larger strategy) against our various Islamist foes.

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By: Darragh McCurragh https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2013/09/23/war-and-understanding/comment-page-1/#comment-72362 Tue, 24 Sep 2013 08:36:40 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2444#comment-72362 “modern nation-state’s inability to understand its own historical oddity”. Well, most nation states (with the exception of Switzerland maybe) today have just supplanted their former kings with an elected king, most noticeable if they’re presidents, less directly visible if they’re called prime ministers or chancellors. But even these names point to a king, as these positions were conferred by sovereigns. Without the sovereign the prime minister runs havoc. And the people are not the sovereign, they are a disparate group who the actionable intelligence is withheld from. Imagine a sovereign who’s constantly being told he/she has ‘no need to know’. No informed decision, no governance. Hence war ensues and no one knows how they got into it.

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