Comments on: It’s a Confidential Thing, You Wouldn’t Understand https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2013/08/02/its-a-confidential-thing-you-wouldnt-understand/ Culture, Politics, Academia and Other Shiny Objects Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:13:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.15 By: Barry https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2013/08/02/its-a-confidential-thing-you-wouldnt-understand/comment-page-1/#comment-72265 Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:13:14 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2408#comment-72265 “Which I have to say shut me up for a bit, hard as that might be to believe. ”

You never brought up the fact that you don’t have *quite* as much power as the government?

Joey Headset: “Because, as a person who is on the internet, white and not gay, I understand that the greatest atrocity that as ever been perpetrated against humankind is the offhand possibility that somebody has access to my cellphone records.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

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By: DCA https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2013/08/02/its-a-confidential-thing-you-wouldnt-understand/comment-page-1/#comment-72236 Wed, 07 Aug 2013 21:43:40 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2408#comment-72236 From my own experience, the confidentiality of grades was not at all an academic value until it was legally required — lots of people would put the list of class grades on their office doors. As a piece of rank speculation, perhaps some of the pressure to inflate grades comes from knowing only your own–which is usually below what you think it should be.

And I see no parallel between what privacy I should expect as an individual and what my government should claim.

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By: Joey Headset https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2013/08/02/its-a-confidential-thing-you-wouldnt-understand/comment-page-1/#comment-72234 Wed, 07 Aug 2013 08:27:18 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2408#comment-72234 I only wish that Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden and Julian Assange had been around during the Cuban Missile Crisis. These brave whistleblowers could have shut down the filthy, secret backroom dealings that ultimately prevented World War III. Because, as a person who is on the internet, white and not gay, I understand that the greatest atrocity that as ever been perpetrated against humankind is the offhand possibility that somebody has access to my cellphone records.

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By: yie https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2013/08/02/its-a-confidential-thing-you-wouldnt-understand/comment-page-1/#comment-72208 Sun, 04 Aug 2013 19:43:27 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2408#comment-72208 hi Professor Burke,

Would you mind elaborating on why the standards for government and academia (or other non-government entities) would need to be similar? Governments already have special powers–why isn’t that enough to justify more accountability (and the additional transparency needed to demonstrate that accountability)?

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By: Timothy Burke https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2013/08/02/its-a-confidential-thing-you-wouldnt-understand/comment-page-1/#comment-72147 Fri, 02 Aug 2013 21:58:23 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2408#comment-72147 Broadly speaking, this is what I keep trying to sell folks on. That:

a) More transparency is reassuring because it reveals that many professional conversations would withstand the scrutiny of everyone except cranks and assholes, who would be cranks and assholes whether they see the real deal or not. This was something I was noting on social media this summer about MI5 files in the UK archives–the MI5 people come off really pretty well a lot of the time, especially compared to the little tinpot bureaucratic assholes who keep reporting people to them. Same in a few State Department files I was looking at in July–at the height of the Cold War a lot of their staffers are keeping a pretty cool head when ordinary folks write to them to try and fink out a neighbor because he was modestly interested in Russia or some such.

b) I think the dilemma is not whether we’d like to see what people say about us in confidential files but whether we’d be willing to say what we need to say if we had to say it straight to someone in a professional context. Academics may have more reluctance to do this for both good reasons and bad reasons. The good reasons stem from teaching, which is not a supervisory or straightforwardly hierarchical relation–we recognize that as in a therapeutic relationship, you may not be entitled to tell all students exactly what you think of them. But there is a big ethical and emotional range in that relationship–some faculty do brilliant, beautiful jobs as teachers by delivering the hard news without apologies or reservations. The bad reasons may be that we like to act like our professional world is flat and lacking in hierarchy, which in some ways it is and some ways it isn’t at all. Being unpracticed in face-to-face assessment is a way to efface the ways that it isn’t.

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By: Laura https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2013/08/02/its-a-confidential-thing-you-wouldnt-understand/comment-page-1/#comment-72146 Fri, 02 Aug 2013 21:32:55 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2408#comment-72146 Oddly, I’ve often wanted to know details about how I’m perceived or assessed. Maybe I’m a sadist.

I do like the idea of transparency. I’ve been privy to confidential conversations about various decisions. And then have had colleagues assume some kind of conspiracy when actually it was nothing of the sort. In fact, it’s usually completely innocuous. I think when organizations aren’t transparent, that’s what happens. People assume bad things are going on and/or the organization decides it can do bad things because “no one will find out.”

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