Comments on: If It Gets you Tang, Space Foodsticks and Miniaturization, Then Go Ahead and Fly to the MOOc https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2013/03/06/if-it-gets-you-tang-space-foodsticks-and-miniaturization-then-go-ahead-and-fly-to-the-mooc/ Culture, Politics, Academia and Other Shiny Objects Fri, 08 Mar 2013 13:43:36 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.15 By: jimmy https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2013/03/06/if-it-gets-you-tang-space-foodsticks-and-miniaturization-then-go-ahead-and-fly-to-the-mooc/comment-page-1/#comment-54051 Fri, 08 Mar 2013 13:43:36 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2268#comment-54051 I haven’t participated in a MOOC but it strikes me as a destructive thing. I’m not sure how people expect education to be funded if they’re going to give it away for free. There are apparently several MOOCs being offered out of my home state. Frankly, I think it should be banned. There should at least be a nominal fee: $20? $50?

The MOOC seems to follow the same business plan as “companies” like Twitter and Facebook: if you give the product away for long enough, you’ll destroy the competition and thereafter hold a monopoly. But how will MOOCs eventually monetize their product? Advertising? *shudder* Do we want the competition destroyed? The US education establishment reduced to a few dominant universities? *double shudder*.

Furthermore, I’m amused/confused/irritated by the repeated assertion that the lecture is a bad format for learning. Depends on who’s doing the lecturing. Especially for my undergrad, I found lectures to be an excellent format to learn. And no, a good lecturer doesn’t just stand there and talk like a tape-recorder playing back, s/he interacts with h/her audience, like any performer. Perhaps the dis against lecturing is because so many faculty so much hate to do it because they’re poor lecturers and don’t want to bother getting better. Along those lines, in grad school there was a movement at the institution I attended to switch grad courses to a 1-2 week intensive seminar. Guess who gets the most out of that? Ha ha, the prof, who gets the rest of the quarter/semester off.

Things aren’t a good ideas just because their possible or just because their new ideas. Some new ideas stink.

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By: Alexpearson60 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2013/03/06/if-it-gets-you-tang-space-foodsticks-and-miniaturization-then-go-ahead-and-fly-to-the-mooc/comment-page-1/#comment-53926 Fri, 08 Mar 2013 02:37:17 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2268#comment-53926 I love the idea of for-profit universities being trammeled by MOOCs and it makes sense to me. MOOCs are free and better. But not you actually can get credentialed now by secure online assessment. Read the New York Times article about ProctorU. It’s a little scary, but very interesting. Coursera just signed a contract with ProctorU.

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By: Nord https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2013/03/06/if-it-gets-you-tang-space-foodsticks-and-miniaturization-then-go-ahead-and-fly-to-the-mooc/comment-page-1/#comment-53798 Thu, 07 Mar 2013 17:44:30 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2268#comment-53798 I don’t know, some of Catherine’s posts strike me as threatened guild members raising hammers to the new fangled wheels that are slowly emerging from new fangled factories … I’m not saying just her comments, but also the other folks, who were taking a course with an axe to grind.

I imagine you’ve had a few students who come to your classes with, non-standard perspective, that can cause them to dominant topics of discussion and hinder the flow of a seminar. Multiply the seminar size by 1,000 and I have some sympathy for what Prof McKenzie was dealing with. Fatal to MOOCs? Like you said, if it replaces the tax-payer mess that is the current for-profit sector, everyone wins but the existing companies …

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By: Western Dave https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2013/03/06/if-it-gets-you-tang-space-foodsticks-and-miniaturization-then-go-ahead-and-fly-to-the-mooc/comment-page-1/#comment-53679 Wed, 06 Mar 2013 19:27:24 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2268#comment-53679 The Friedman line I loved: “MOOCs will force professors to improve their pedagogy.” But of course, the first step towards that is to ditch the lecture – the central pedagogical tool of the MOOC.

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By: Chris https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2013/03/06/if-it-gets-you-tang-space-foodsticks-and-miniaturization-then-go-ahead-and-fly-to-the-mooc/comment-page-1/#comment-53678 Wed, 06 Mar 2013 18:49:43 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=2268#comment-53678 I admit to wondering where Friedman’s children went to college as I read his complaint about paying $50,000 for college if one can “learn it all for free” with MOOCs. He should try that and let us know how it works out.

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