Comments on: Bystander Training and Other Acts of Management https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2012/03/26/bystander-training-and-other-acts-of-management/ Culture, Politics, Academia and Other Shiny Objects Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:47:24 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.15 By: RBH https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2012/03/26/bystander-training-and-other-acts-of-management/comment-page-1/#comment-8940 Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:47:24 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=1914#comment-8940 I see my proof reading skills have deteriorated; I hope the same isn’t true of my memory!

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By: RBH https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2012/03/26/bystander-training-and-other-acts-of-management/comment-page-1/#comment-8939 Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:45:01 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=1914#comment-8939 This struck a chord in me. 41 years ago I joined the faculty of Kenyon College, a small private 100% residential college located in a tiny village out in the boondocks of Ohio. At that time, in a conscious effort to make the ‘residential’ part integral to the faculty, we were required to live within 3 miles of the village post office. A number of faculy in fact lived on campus in houses owned by the college. Student party permits required a signature from a faculty member who agreed to attend the party, and it was routine to see faculty couples at student parties on Saturday nights. It was not unusual for faculty members to have students over for dinner or cookouts at their homes.

Over the years, in part due to the difficulties encountered by dual career couples, the faculty residential requirement was loosened, first to 10 miles and then abolished altogether. Now some faculy members commute from significant distances, 40 or 50 miles. Party permits no longer require faculy assent to attendance, and fewer faculty members attend any student functions, parties or not. Faculy criteria for retention and promotion de-emphasized ‘community’ activities and shifted to emphasis on ‘scholarly’ activities.

Coupled with that was the geographical balkanization of the faculty, with departments acquiring their own buildings or sections of buildings where before there was at least some interlacing of members from various departments.

The interactions between students and faculty members shrank to the classroom and lab, abandoning the informality of a fraternity lounge or a bench on the lawn. The college is poorer for it, but I’m afraid it was inevitable.

I hope that’s not not an old guy’s hazed memory of a golden age, bit I think not.

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By: Mike https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2012/03/26/bystander-training-and-other-acts-of-management/comment-page-1/#comment-8929 Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:41:54 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=1914#comment-8929 Hey Carl: it made sense. The common theme here, expressed in varying degrees of fluency, is that we should be cautious of quick judgement and rash thinking, even if (especially if) the community speaks with one loud voice. Our goal as members of the academy, or really any community, is to be informed by our hearts but ruled by our heads.

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By: Carl https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2012/03/26/bystander-training-and-other-acts-of-management/comment-page-1/#comment-8928 Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:03:27 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=1914#comment-8928 Sorry, before dinner I thought that made sense, but now I’m not so sure.

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By: Carl https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2012/03/26/bystander-training-and-other-acts-of-management/comment-page-1/#comment-8927 Mon, 26 Mar 2012 22:46:10 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=1914#comment-8927 Yeah, I agree as to both substance and feeling. The trick I guess is to insert some kind of genuine reflective moment/process between the stimulus and the response, even if in cases of Manifest Injustice ™ to do so seems to give comfort to the devil. I’m collating this post idiosyncratically with the Trayvon Martin thread over at Crooked Timber, which I’ve been reading with just this sort of uneasiness. I had it during the Henry Louis Gates arrest incident as well, and the attack on Afghanistan after 9/11. Not that the outrage in each case isn’t rational or well-intentioned, but that the stimulus/response loop is much too short and therefore necessarily formulaic to inspire confidence in the quality of the conclusions. I get really, really uncomfortable when people start to get that look in their eye like things are simple and truth is evident and righteous action must be taken nownownow.

So in the case of intentional community I don’t think there’s a formula that will work for all times. It’s a continuous dynamic balancing of world images, rights, duties, opportunities, powers and so on, requiring more than anything else willingness and disposition to engage in and trust deliberative process. But to say that in any particular case just seems like more of the usual academic handwaving.

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By: Daniel L https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2012/03/26/bystander-training-and-other-acts-of-management/comment-page-1/#comment-8926 Mon, 26 Mar 2012 22:43:12 +0000 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=1914#comment-8926 Tim, I definitely remember the cake/feces incident, though I don’t know if I went to the meeting about it. But what I do remember is your skeptical approach to both sides of the “chalking” issue, which I got totally caught up in my first year. And generally your consistently intellectually-challenging and -rigorous responses to all the various identity-politics-based demands made by the various groups in the 90s, which always made me think and which I often came to agree with, maybe sometime later. All of which to say, I think maybe you’re under-valuing the role you can and do play as a teacher in the life of the community, simply by responding to students who discuss these issues with you.

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