Comments on: Extension Tutorials? https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2010/07/09/extension-tutorials/ Culture, Politics, Academia and Other Shiny Objects Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:54:31 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.15 By: hunter https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2010/07/09/extension-tutorials/comment-page-1/#comment-7325 Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:54:31 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=1290#comment-7325 I have had experience with a form of this tutorial, and it worked well, but after graduating from college in language instruction. A tutor of mine from Syria who was ABD gave private lessons and then (out of the kindness of his academic heart) kept up with me via Skype for sometime after I returned to the US.

I feel that with language instruction specifically– in which communicating clearly and hitting certain stylistic qualities and accents is key– this is a great model. Learning Cairene Arabic in this manner, when the professor at college is an Arab-American or a non-Arab who never lived and learned Egyptian dialect and local sayings, would be the type of situation in which I could see this working. Specific textual study would also work (Qur’anic or Talmudic commentaries)….

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By: G. Weaire https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2010/07/09/extension-tutorials/comment-page-1/#comment-7310 Mon, 12 Jul 2010 13:38:38 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=1290#comment-7310 I sort of agree with Daniel Rosenblatt that we should be able to be of use to undergraduates even in areas we don’t know all that well. I think we probably all have had times where we’ve done that with some success – and have had to learn something ourselves, which doesn’t hurt. Insert comments about the need to avoid doing anything that would further narrow overspecialization here.

But I’m still attracted to the idea. It provides an answer (not a silver bullet, but a start) to all those times that someone has to be discouraged from doing a viable and interesting dissertation on something which will make it harder than usual for them to find a job. As long as a candidate can teach Intro to Surveys, this could mean that an odd, quirky, specialization could actually shed lustre on the department that has such a person around the place.

It’s not surprising to hear from Carl Burkart that people will do this sort of teaching for nominal pay. (“Will” is not intended to mean “should.”) How often do any of us get to advise a student on exactly what we’re working on ourselves?

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By: Daniel Rosenblatt https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2010/07/09/extension-tutorials/comment-page-1/#comment-7309 Sat, 10 Jul 2010 17:48:38 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=1290#comment-7309 I’m guessing you are talking about undergrads here? Because at the grad level, the usual solution to this is simply having committee members from other places. At the undergrad level, I’m not this will work, but then, I’m not sure I see the problem. It COULD work, if institutions would really pay $3,000 per tutorial, but since that’s about what most of them pay for designing and teaching a course to 20 students, this seems unlikely.

But my own experience with very good, very motivated undergrads suggests another solution: if someone wants to do something in my field but outside of my area of expertise, what’s worked is to set up a tutorial where the basic structure is that they learn a subject area and teach it to me. We set up a broad topic, and then they do a lit search (on the basis of which I will poke around to see if there’s anything else that seems interesting), and then we decide what to read first. I usually try to take a look at it before we meet, but the onus is on them to know it well enough to describe and explain it to me. If I’m really trying to figure out what something is about I will press a student with questions about it in a way I never would when I already know about it, and I’ve had some very productive tutorials this way. I think a broad knowledge of a field lets us usefully guide a student even if they end up knowing more about a specific area than we do, as long as the areas are somewhat close. So, for example. while I work on the politics of cultural revival, if a student wanted to study (say) the emergence of consumer culture in Africa, I think we could do a course where they would learn a lot about that even if I would do it differently than you would.

This is essentially the model of doctoral education, where the student is the expert on the topic, but the advisers can still guide and judge the students work.

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By: carlburkart https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2010/07/09/extension-tutorials/comment-page-1/#comment-7308 Sat, 10 Jul 2010 14:51:48 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=1290#comment-7308 This individual tutorial model has been in place since the 1970s at SUNY Empire State College (a mostly adult institution). Experts in a particular field frequently work one on one with students when local faculty lack the expertise. This works financially only because the pay for working with students is low enough to be nominal ($200-$300). People do it because they are interested in working with a particular student or on a particular project rather than as a money making venture.

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By: dmerkow https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2010/07/09/extension-tutorials/comment-page-1/#comment-7307 Sat, 10 Jul 2010 05:38:16 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=1290#comment-7307 If higher ed operated more according to a guild/craft union model, especially for non-permanent labor, this would be very easy to facilitate.

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