Comments on: If You Must https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2009/11/11/if-you-must/ Culture, Politics, Academia and Other Shiny Objects Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:13:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.15 By: jim https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2009/11/11/if-you-must/comment-page-1/#comment-6978 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:13:55 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=1067#comment-6978 My general impression is that Powerpoint makes bad lecturers better, but not good. It generally restrains the overly discursive (not to say garrulous), for example.

We talk about bad use iof Powerpoint. We tend not to talk about bad use of non-Powerpoint.

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By: Matt Lungerhausen https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2009/11/11/if-you-must/comment-page-1/#comment-6977 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:43:30 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=1067#comment-6977 Tim, I agree you and the other comentors that this is less a problem of powerpoint and more a matter of pedagogy. In fact, I would say it has a lot more to do with the job description of “professor” than it does with even pedagogy. I am pretty sure Carolyn’s Operating Systems instructor is more esteemed by his colleagues and the institution for his research rather than his teaching.

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By: Jonathan Dresner https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2009/11/11/if-you-must/comment-page-1/#comment-6976 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:17:25 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=1067#comment-6976 I’ve just started using powerpoint for visual materials, as I transfer my old slides to digital form, and I’ll probably start using it for maps and charts in the next few months if I can muster the patience to actually figure out where my textbook company has hidden them on their website.

I only have a few lectures that are so organized that I’d actually consider putting the whole thing — in outline at least — in powerpoint form. What I’d really like to have, actually, is a kind of flexible presentation system so that I could quickly search through my collection for a particular chart or painting and display it, without the entire class seeing me scroll through directories of stuff or riffling through google images…. Sure, sometimes I know in advance exactly what I’m going to need, but between the improvisational nature of my brain and the unpredictability of student questions, powerpoint just doesn’t work that well most of the time.

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By: Phil Palmer https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2009/11/11/if-you-must/comment-page-1/#comment-6975 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:44:43 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=1067#comment-6975 I was once in a department where the manager had determined that we needed to communicate more. He therefore decided that we should each give presentations to the other departments, based on ones that he himself had previously given. Since this was before the days of Powerpoint, the presentations were on flip charts – that, youngsters, means a blackboard-sized pad of paper on an easel where pages can be flipped over in turn to reveal messages prepared in advance with sharpies – in different colors if you are lucky.

There were varying degrees of resistance. One colleague, a particularly brilliant Swiss woman and a notoriously poor communicator – her view was that communication confused what should be a quite simple matter – refused outright. The manager responded with a direct order and an ultimatum.

And so, come the day, she stood in front of the flip chart and read the bullet points off it. Very. Very. Slowly. Bear in mind that the visiting departments were well acquainted with the topics and were expecting some background, insight, structure, or just general enlightenment. At first she read the flip charts out in a flat monotone but as the presentation continued, she allowed a note of puzzlement to enter what she was saying, until finally her voice rose in squeaks of astonishment at the contents of her own presentation.

The visitors were furious. Further presentations were canceled. But it wasn’t the fault of Powerpoint.

And this wasn’t in academia, but in a competitive, private sector, unsubsidized shipping company.

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By: jliedl https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2009/11/11/if-you-must/comment-page-1/#comment-6974 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:37:23 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=1067#comment-6974 I’m a fan of PowerPoint as one of several tools that I use in the classroom. It’s great to make sure students aren’t panicked over how to spell this or that name, or interrupt the flow of our discussion to doublecheck in what years France was involved in the Wars of Religion. PowerPoint saves the department a lot of money in terms of maps and other illustrations that I used to print out on acetate sheets. (Sometimes the provided textbook map sets were useful, but I’ve never seen “prepared slides” of images or text that would be even remotely in line with what I do in class.)

PowerPoint’s allowed me to use more visual material in my courses. I’m happiest about an entire seminar class on early modern visual culture and gender based on about twenty images pulled together with PowerPoint — nothing but the illustrations, the names of the creator and the dates. The images are a lot more prepossessing up on the screen than reproduced at about 2×3″ in a textbook or reader!

Sure, you don’t have to use it and nobody should be entirely reliant on the technology, but my writing hand is fairly crippled from broken bones and nerve damage. I can keyboard well but I can barely write with chalk on a board so doing it by hand in class doesn’t work for me if there’s a viable alternative. And I much prefer the clarity of PowerPoint slides to my chicken-scrawled map of the Caribbean or attempt to lay out a statistical analysis of convictions in 18th century London on the blackboard!

This year my senior students, following my lead, are doing a better job employing PowerPoint: they put up short passages from primary sources about which they presenting (so their classmates can take turns to read the passage and discuss their interpretations). This is much better than their usual impulse to put up enormous screens of text at about 14pt font!

We’ve talked a bit about how to think about presentations but could do a bit more on this end. I’m hoping that next term will be even better and that they’ll come out of the class not only with a better-developed sense of history, but with some savvy about how they choose to present their knowledge, whatever technology they use.

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By: Timothy Burke https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2009/11/11/if-you-must/comment-page-1/#comment-6973 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:19:00 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=1067#comment-6973 That would be a good test, wouldn’t it? Take away the software at the last second, hand someone the notes they intended to bring anyway, and see what happens.

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By: David Chudzicki https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2009/11/11/if-you-must/comment-page-1/#comment-6972 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:14:53 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=1067#comment-6972 I still think that PointPoint is a scapegoat of sorts, that bad pedagogy that uses PowerPoint was bad before PointPoint or even personal computers were involved in higher education.

This does make sense, and I have nothing but anecdote. But my anecdote is at least two professors from my college experience who almost always gave their lectures with Powerpoint, who I thought gave better lectures on those few occasions when something went wrong with the technology and they couldn’t use the slides.

Maybe nothing was different about their presentations without the slides. Maybe the problem with the slides was how I related to them in the audience, and I could have had this better experience every class if I somehow managed to ignore their existence. (Though I doubt it.) But I was amazed at how instead of getting flustered at not being able to use the technology they expected to have at hand, they ended up giving what I thought were their best lectures.

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