Comments on: DIY Discoveries https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2009/06/08/diy-discoveries/ Culture, Politics, Academia and Other Shiny Objects Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:23:58 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.15 By: SamChevre https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2009/06/08/diy-discoveries/comment-page-1/#comment-6695 Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:23:58 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=850#comment-6695 On bread: unsalted dough rises oddly–very fast and much less resiliently than salted dough. If you notice it when you go to punch it down the first time, taste the dough–you will be able to tell if it has salt already or not. (I learned that and almost everything else I know about bread from the Laurel’s Kitchen Bread Book.) If it needs salt, add it–mix it with a tablespoon of blackstrap molasses if possible so you can see when it is evenly incorporated.

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By: emschwar https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2009/06/08/diy-discoveries/comment-page-1/#comment-6663 Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:07:32 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=850#comment-6663 As for baking, I recommend you check out Michael Ruhlman’s _Ratios_ and/or Alton Brown’s I’m Just Here for More Food. Both endeavour (Ruhlman more explicitly, Brown more by illustration) to teach intuition about baking. Once you know how a baking recipe breaks down, it’s comparitively easy to, say, turn a chocolate chip cookie recipe into a chocolate-chocolate-chip cookie recipe, or improvise a bacon-and-onion popover. Ruhlman even has a handy poster for download on his site listing the basic ratios (and assembly notes) for the most common baking needs.

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By: north https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2009/06/08/diy-discoveries/comment-page-1/#comment-6662 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:34:04 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=850#comment-6662 Oh certainly – cooking and baking are pretty different. I was just saying that I think the precision and linearity of baking are a little over-stated (not necessarily by you, just in general), and that there’s more overlap than people often acknowledge. Think bread pudding: you have the transformation of soggy bread to something puffy and delicious, and it’s very hard to fix after it’s baked, but there’s plenty of room to add extra things and combine recipes and experiment, especially since you don’t have to worry about yeast or chemical leaveners.

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By: Timothy Burke https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2009/06/08/diy-discoveries/comment-page-1/#comment-6661 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:14:38 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=850#comment-6661 The tool library is a great idea. Home Depot’s rental rates shocked the hell out of me when I took a look at them.

I agree that the more baking you do, the more you get an instinctive sense for what something’s supposed to be like, and a lot of dough is fixable if it’s off. I’ve actually done a goodly amount of baking (used to have to bake the bread when I worked as a cook, in fact)–but I do think it calls for a different kind of precision and has a different kidn of linearity than cooking.

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By: north https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2009/06/08/diy-discoveries/comment-page-1/#comment-6658 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:57:28 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=850#comment-6658 In Crawford’s NYT article, he didn’t seem to argue that the middle-class knowledge-worker ethos was intentionally and directly hostile to skilled labor – he seemed more to be arguing that it ignores the virtues and intellectual engagement offered by the kind of skilled craft that he practices, and overvalues the intellectual engagement of most white-collar jobs. Having had a couple of office jobs, been a teacher, and done some fairly short stints of farm labor (3 months-ish), I also found that the office jobs were the most brain-deadening. I have one right now, and even though it’s not too much work and is astonishingly well-paid, I’m incredibly glad to be trading it this fall for much longer hours and less money doing something much more likely to be interesting. Also, while I was basically unskilled when I worked on the farm, the woman I worked for is extraordinarily good with plants and animals, and I learned a lot that summer.

Orientalizing the activities of the working class is something I have noticed among my peers.
Yes, totally, but I think this ends up depending much more on whether the individual becoming fascinated is obnoxious or not. Mostly when I’ve done farmwork (or whatever) the real question is whether I’m going to work, because a lot of people who don’t have the experience of doing hard physical work for a long time aren’t willing to do it. My partner works in local food, and even though she’s a queer urban person, the farmers she works with tend to love her because she works incredibly hard and is genuinely enthusiastic (and fairly knowledgeable) – it’s obvious that she’s not being a tourist. I’ve had a similar experience being a young teacher around a lot of older, more experienced teachers: as long as I worked hard and cared about what I was doing and wasn’t a jerk about it, they were really happy to have me around. People like showing other people what they’re doing, and passing on the hard-earned particular knowledge of their trades.

I wouldn???? disagree, on the other hand, with an argument that a liberal arts education should have way more hands-on and practical components than it typically does. But that too is an old argument: constructivist pedagogies have been knocking around for decades, looking for greater purchase in many curricula.

I don’t read Crawford as directly addressing this, so much as making a parallel argument for the intellectual seriousness of trades. But I do really agree with it. I think it’s great for people to experience more than one kind of intellectual work, partly because then when you make a job/career choice, you’re clearer about what you’re getting and what you’re giving up. I’m a little less worried about the lack of prestige of this than I might be, because I think it’s good for people to spend a couple years doing things for reasons other than prestige, and because I also think it’s good for people to have the experience of saying, “what the hell, I’m just going to try this,” even though they don’t see a clear path for it to be useful in their long-term career arc.

As for practicalities:
1) I think this becomes less true as you do more baking and learn more about how it all works. I’ve managed to fix some ridiculous mistakes, like adding twice as much baking soda to a gingerbread cake. I added a little extra acid and baked it anyway, and while the center fell, the cake was still tasty. You also eventually get more of a feel for what dough or batter is supposed to look like, whether you should keep adding flour, etc. Even after the bread rises, you can knead in the salt, let it rise again (maybe in the refrigerator?), and it’ll probably turn out fine. Second and third rises mostly don’t hurt bread. Of course, you are essentially stuck with whatever you’ve made once it goes in the oven (as, for example, the time my brother measured the dry ingredients for some muffins and forgot the leavener). But that’s part of the pay-off of baking, that you put something in the oven and it comes out completely transformed.

2) I am really excited about the chance this fall to work with my partner’s dad on some DIY projects for exactly this reason (and similarly bummed that I didn’t take advantage of my parents’ fairly extensive knowledge of carpentry). It’s a lot easier to learn when you have someone to show you what an instruction means.

6) One way to contain mint, should you decide to dig it up, is to sink a large pot in the ground with the mint inside it.

7) There was a different NYT article at one point about a couple who tried to turn their lawn into a no-mow perennial native grasses situation. It took them something like 6 years, I think.

8 ) One totally genius idea is the tool library, which both Berkeley and West Philly have. You buy a membership ($20 in West Philly, I think) and can check out any tools they have for a few days at a time. I don’t know why every community doesn’t have these.

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By: Timothy Burke https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2009/06/08/diy-discoveries/comment-page-1/#comment-6656 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:18:54 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=850#comment-6656 I guess I’m just curious about whether he takes Fukuyama’s line, which is that all this talk about reskilling and educating workers for the 21st Century is intentionally hostile to hands-on work, a kind of plot to turn everyone into white-collar workers. That really misses the mark: I think very few educators who promote that kind of rhetoric are directly hostile to plumbing, carpentry or other skilled trades. That conversation is really about the disappearance of unskilled or semi-skilled assembly manufacturing from the American economy, and about what might replace it.

I wouldn’t disagree, on the other hand, with an argument that a liberal arts education should have way more hands-on and practical components than it typically does. But that too is an old argument: constructivist pedagogies have been knocking around for decades, looking for greater purchase in many curricula. And it’s pretty much gospel in liberal arts science majors that direct experience with laboratory work is a necessity for doing science of any kind.

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By: dmerkow https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2009/06/08/diy-discoveries/comment-page-1/#comment-6652 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 01:55:16 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=850#comment-6652 Tim,
On a couple of the interviews Crawford has done, he has taken care to distinguish the sort of hands on work he is advocating for and the kind of assembly-line less skilled manufacturing. His vision seems to more Wendell Berry less Henry Ford.

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By: hunter https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2009/06/08/diy-discoveries/comment-page-1/#comment-6651 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:13:34 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=850#comment-6651 craig’s list might be a decent place to start looking for a skilled know-how. postings at your local farmer’s market or food co-op is another idea (those who tend to shop organic and local tend to be into DIY ventures in my experience). I think the rubric for compensation should follow the logic that minimum wage is appropriate for high school knuckleheads to made extra money, unskilled manual labor should be minimum and a half, semi-skilled should be twice minimum, skilled somewhere above.

Also investing in a pet rabbit might be a good idea to curb the mint. Or fight it with kudzu. Then fight the kudzu with kudzu-eating giraffes. Then the giraffes with a pack of lions. Then wait for winter to take care of the lions….

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By: Timothy Burke https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2009/06/08/diy-discoveries/comment-page-1/#comment-6650 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:43:53 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=850#comment-6650 I’ve got two kinds of mint going, and both have gone in mint tea and ice cream, actually. Also just inside as an aromatic with the lemon balm. What I’m worried about now is one area of mint escaping into my neighbor’s grass…

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By: Timothy Burke https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2009/06/08/diy-discoveries/comment-page-1/#comment-6649 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:42:26 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=850#comment-6649 On hiring skilled house maintenance: I’m thinking also that $15+ an hour for someone who knows what they’re doing is very much the right pay level, but it’s hard to find someone who isn’t workign with a big crew who doesn’t see small jobs as an opportunity to squeeze out some value on the side while they contract out a big job, and treats those jobs with about that level of priority. I’d love to find someone to *help* me with some annoying small jobs who would also *teach* me how to do them well–replacing some rotted wood on one windowsill, a beam in a crawlspace above our garage, a small area of tiling, and re-caulking around our tub. The last is a bit sticky because I need an honest assessment of the seriously screwed-up installations of the previous owner and whether there is any woodrot from minor leakage. I honestly can’t tell when I get into the affected area. Asking those questions to a fullscale plumber/maintenance person is practically inviting them to tell me that I need thousands of dollars of total rehab.

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