Comments on: So You Want to Know About…the Luo https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2008/11/12/so-you-want-to-know-aboutthe-luo/ Culture, Politics, Academia and Other Shiny Objects Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:36:11 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.15 By: moldbug https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2008/11/12/so-you-want-to-know-aboutthe-luo/comment-page-1/#comment-6013 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:36:11 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=672#comment-6013 withy,

Want a good book on the Civil War? Try George Lunt’s Origin of the Late War – Boston, 1866. Intervening events have hardly clarified matters.

If you must, however, Charles Francis Adams Jr’s beautiful essay ‘Tis Sixty Years Since is about the latest primary source I can recommend. The scholarship of the early 20th century is good, also – Burgess, Dunning, Randall, Craven, Mary Scrugham. And Beveridge and Masters on Lincoln. I definitely would avoid anything published post ’45. If you have to ask why, you’ve been reading too much of it already!

For other more primary material, I previously mentioned Dabney’s Defence of Virginia. Full of theology, but if you have a taste for moral hairsplitting, still kind of fun. Also John S. Wise’s End of an Era. A great prewar piece that will really make your head hurt is Nehemiah Adams’ South-Side View of Slavery – Boston, 1854; Adams was a Congregationalist minister. For winter beach reading, however, you really can’t beat Admiral Semmes.

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By: Timothy Burke https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2008/11/12/so-you-want-to-know-aboutthe-luo/comment-page-1/#comment-6009 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:49:07 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=672#comment-6009 I agree that no one book can, but in some cases, the very best books on African societies don’t take the nation as their subject. E.g., you can find some compelling books on some nations (African and otherwise) which of course do not tell you everything, because no nation is that simple. For other countries, though, I sometimes just have to say, “You’ll have to read about this region or community or ethnic group or phenomenon or cultural movement to get a feel for that nation.”

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By: Carl https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2008/11/12/so-you-want-to-know-aboutthe-luo/comment-page-1/#comment-6006 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:06:32 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=672#comment-6006 Re: the U.S. these are all good suggestions, but I think Peter’s point was that no one book or even terrific short list of books can adequately capture the complexity of any country, not even one with a short history like ours. And I agree.

Still, a start must always be made and so thanks very much Timothy for this. I’m especially looking forward to ordering the Cohen-Odhiambo books for our library and getting my hands on them first!

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By: kimdutoit https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2008/11/12/so-you-want-to-know-aboutthe-luo/comment-page-1/#comment-6002 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:38:35 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=672#comment-6002 For the United States? I would suggest Hunter S. Thompson’s Fear and Loathing as a seminal work. A little shy on historical reference, to be sure, but the outcome of American history is perfectly explained.

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By: withywindle https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2008/11/12/so-you-want-to-know-aboutthe-luo/comment-page-1/#comment-5999 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 04:47:05 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=672#comment-5999 James MacPherson, Battle Cry of Freedom. Or any good book on the Civil War. My experience is that of the various things foreigners don’t know about the United States, and what has made its character, that’s the most important.

I am, I confess, astonished at how relatively little American history is taught abroad. (Have I mentioned my astonishment on this blog before?) Given our prominence on the world scene, you’d think learning a bit about our past might recommend itself to the enlightened national self-interest of educational bureaucrats abroad.

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By: moldbug https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2008/11/12/so-you-want-to-know-aboutthe-luo/comment-page-1/#comment-5995 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:14:56 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=672#comment-5995 peter55, I’m quite partial to G.W. Steevens’ Land of the Dollar. And of course there’s always Dickens’ American Notes

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By: Doug https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2008/11/12/so-you-want-to-know-aboutthe-luo/comment-page-1/#comment-5989 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:41:17 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=672#comment-5989 de Tocqueville, because if you quote from it with an air of authority, you can fake knowing just about anything else about the US.

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By: jpool https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2008/11/12/so-you-want-to-know-aboutthe-luo/comment-page-1/#comment-5985 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:52:54 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=672#comment-5985 Matthew Carotenuto has a couple of articles out from his work on the Luo Union.

On the brief introduction, I’d be curious as to what you think of the History of… and Culture and Customs of… series that Toyin Falola has been editing for Greenwood.

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By: peter55 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2008/11/12/so-you-want-to-know-aboutthe-luo/comment-page-1/#comment-5984 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:19:33 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=672#comment-5984 “But I get these requests so often in email, often from people who are planning to travel to some particular African country or who are soon to be stationed there in the Peace Corps or for some other reason, . . . “

And what single, great book would these people who contact you themselves recommend to intending travelers to the USA which would describe coherently the history, geography, languages, politics and cultures of the country?

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