Comments on: Contingency https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2008/04/03/contingency/ Culture, Politics, Academia and Other Shiny Objects Sat, 05 Apr 2008 18:34:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.15 By: Random African https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2008/04/03/contingency/comment-page-1/#comment-5175 Sat, 05 Apr 2008 18:34:22 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=551#comment-5175 There was an article that I can’t find that gave a quite dramatic account of what went behind the scenes within security forces during the Orange Revolution. The whole thing may have been exagerated to make for a more spectacular read but it gave a good impression of various schemes and interest between some players and how much influence they had on the outcomes of a “social” event.
In short, the army while not openly supporting the opposition did prevent the government from using its loyal security forces against the protesters. The generals who made those decisions all had different motivations. Some were concerned about a possible civil war, some were concerned about the institution itself and some had relatives and friends protesting.

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By: peter55 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2008/04/03/contingency/comment-page-1/#comment-5174 Sat, 05 Apr 2008 15:15:39 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=551#comment-5174 Another thought, Timothy, that may be relevant. In 2001, documents claiming to be transcripts of discussions within the leadership of the Communist Party of China prior to the suppression of the Tiananman protests in 1989 were published (Nathan et al 2001, see below). If these transcripts are genuine, they are very revealing about major public policy deliberations in a dictatorship.

The relative political power of the participants appears to have greatly influenced what they say to one another, and there is little substantive discussion of the consequences of alternative courses of action, or their relative advantages and disadvantages. For such a major decision, there is (at least in these documents) remarkably little debate or substantive analysis. For example, once Deng Xiaopeng, the most powerful participant in the discussions, had decided upon martial law, all but two of the other participants, the brave Zhao Ziyang and Hu Qili, also supported it. The nature of this support appears to have mostly been political point-scoring and scape-goating, primarily directed against Zhao; in reading these transcripts, one has the impression that the speakers expressing such views were articulating positions they already knew Deng to support.

See: A. J. Nathan and P. Link, editors. “The Tiananmen Papers.” Little, Brown and Company, London, UK, 2001. Compiled by Zhang Liang, with an afterword by O. Schell.

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By: Timothy Burke https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2008/04/03/contingency/comment-page-1/#comment-5156 Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:45:42 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=551#comment-5156 Yeah, I agree, Peter. I think it’s a very striking part of Shona life.

Ca: MDC has publically assured the military leadership that they will not be prosecuted, and those that received land after the seizures of white-owned farms will be allowed to keep it. So I think you’re right that if there are negotiations going on, they’re likely including more parties than just Mugabe himself.

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By: peter55 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2008/04/03/contingency/comment-page-1/#comment-5149 Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:37:34 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=551#comment-5149 “Historically, it seems to me, rural Shona elites have had a mode of political discourse that is very much about indirection, about telling silences, about open conspiracy. ”

Timothy, this also describes very well ordinary social discourse with people in contemporary Shona culture. Of all the societies I have experienced (on all continents but South America), the maShona are the most adept at metaphoric and indirect speech, at speaking between the lines, at saying while not saying, at maintaining deniability, at secret signalling (sending contradictory messages to multiple audiences simultaneously), and at speaking truth to power while allowing the power to retain face.

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By: ca https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2008/04/03/contingency/comment-page-1/#comment-5148 Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:23:16 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=551#comment-5148 See http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/04/zimbabwe2
If they’re right, we may yet see Mugabe leave power soon.
I have been wondering what the price may be. My suspicion is that it may be not simply with protection/immunity for himself, but also his supporters/cronies. Which raises all sorts of interesting questions of justice, and comparisons with the Lancaster House Accords that protected those who had taken the country to war, abused other Zimbabweans and blocked regime change. Thoughtful Zimbabwean politicians in the 1980s and after denounced such deals, including oh, wait, Robert Mugabe et al.
A deal, though, whether fully rational and just or not, may be the best we can hope for. The politics won’t be ending anytime soon.
And I’d expect that fatigue would be as much a factor as rationality. Repression and destruction must get exhausting when sustained and intensified for years.

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By: Timothy Burke https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2008/04/03/contingency/comment-page-1/#comment-5144 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:19:56 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=551#comment-5144 Oh, I don’t mean to give that impression at all, Peter. I think it’s very much as you say, that the ways in which they are making decisions are very bound by their knowledge and understanding, by their personhood, by the internal culture of power in the Zimbabwean elite and the larger culture of Zimbabwe as a society, and so on. As are all such moments where power crystallizes into action.

I am saying that it’s actually hard to imagine or know certain things about those bound spaces where these conversations are happening. For example, as I said, how much Mugabe actually knows about anything is hard to judge. How much “Mugabe” is the man himself and how much he’s a fictional front for a group of elites is hard to know.

Historically, it seems to me, rural Shona elites have had a mode of political discourse that is very much about indirection, about telling silences, about open conspiracy. When I look at some very striking actions that I’m interested in my current manuscript about chiefs, I’m always struck at how dramatic, contradictory violence or action by powerful individuals seems to come from a miasmic haze of feinted intentions and indirect hints–and I’m convinced in many cases that there was no secret conversation where a deliberate, conscious, consultative decision to commit rational or programmatic action was taken, but neither were those actions wholly spontaneous, irrational or reactive.

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By: peter55 https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2008/04/03/contingency/comment-page-1/#comment-5142 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:53:08 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=551#comment-5142 It is likely that you don’t intend it, but the impression of your post is that you think Mugabe and his security advisors are making reasoned, sober, rational decisions — identifying comprehensively their decision options, weighing the consequences of each option, strategically assessing the likely counter-moves of their opponents, gathering the information needed to select between options, and so one. That presumes a style of decision-making found in the classrooms of Harvard Business School and University of Chicago Economics Department, and pretty much nowhere else. My guess is that he and his advisors are acting and reacting very emotionally, and possibly in response to an event (his loss of power) they may well now believe to be inevitable. Rational choice theory is all well and good, except that it doesn’t apply to human beings.

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By: Thomas Malaby https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2008/04/03/contingency/comment-page-1/#comment-5138 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:03:15 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=551#comment-5138 A sobering account of Zimbabwe’s circumstance and the limits of our knowing, Tim. It reminds me of chapter 8 of Alasdair MacIntyre’s After Virtue, “The Character of Generalizations in Social Science and their Lack of Predictive Power.”

I often lament how generalizability — in an extreme sense: not only across spaces, but also across times — has come to stand as the pre-eminent measure of worth for social science claims (well, probably all academic claims). It seems to be hard for many academics (and certainly policy makers) to accept the irreducible contingency of social processes over time, and that is why we’re better at explaining things after they’ve happened.

This of course doesn’t mean that post hoc analyses cannot offer anything to decisions about the future. But it does seem as if many want analysis to direct, specifically and non-negotiably, a course of action, rather than see it as an important guide to critical judgment.

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