Comments on: Obama and Blackness https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2007/02/13/obama-and-blackness/ Culture, Politics, Academia and Other Shiny Objects Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:30:37 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.15 By: owna https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2007/02/13/obama-and-blackness/comment-page-1/#comment-3289 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:30:37 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=326#comment-3289 As a black small business onwer selling antique maps of the African diaspora (www.africa-maps.net), I understand the ambivalence many African-Americans have about Africa. When I try to sell my maps, I invariably get a look of why would I want that on my wall, I’m not from Africa. But as I’m trying to sell the maps, I emphasize the history which comes through on the antique map and the sense of pride from owning a genuine antique map which is comparable to other art when framed.

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By: jpool https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2007/02/13/obama-and-blackness/comment-page-1/#comment-3206 Sat, 17 Feb 2007 21:55:09 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=326#comment-3206 It’s interesting that Appiah’s attracted this kind of vehement response from Afrocentrists in a way that Paul Gilroy, who espouses the same anti-essentialist position, has not (he’s attracted criticism, but I haven’t heard anyone question his Black/Africanness).

There was an interesting discussion of all this on Talk of the Nation Wednesday that you may have heard. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7402914 Debra Dickerson made the good points that Obama’s candidacy both offers the opportunity for a fuller discussion about different kinds or experiences of Blackness (she suggests that this category will likely decline in significance in the wake of this demographic expansion of non-American slavery descended African-American populations) and that his early success may be something of a bitter pill for some African-American since they know that he would likely not be experiencing this same kind of success/acceptance among Euro-Americans if he were of the above mentioned American-slavery descent, and yet his success will also likely help to lift barriers for other Americans of African descent.

Annecdotally, I was flipping around a friend’s cable access channels and saw two relavent discussions in the space of a few minutes, neither of which fit with the media’s gloss of these discussions as “Is he black enough?” One was a neo-Garveyite individual arguing that Africans should under stand that Americans do not want African-Americans in this country and positing that Obama, despite his qualifications, would never be elected as evidence of this. The other was a conversation between two African-American women in African dress. One of them was saying that she didn’t know what the solution to bringing African-American and new African immigrant communities closer together was, but that it would require more effort and understanding from African-Americans to bring it about.

Thanks for the cites. I knew that Sundiata’s book was out but haven’t had a chance to look at it yet. This is really rich and nicely evolving field.

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By: Matt https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2007/02/13/obama-and-blackness/comment-page-1/#comment-3204 Wed, 14 Feb 2007 05:51:05 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=326#comment-3204 On Appiah, I once heard an African-american philosopher who writes on race who strongly disagreed with Appiah’s view on race say that ‘he’s not really black’, but here he went on to say that it was because Appiah’s father was really east Indian, not the man he claims to be his father, and that this explained why Appiah believes what he does about race. It was really a pretty gross display. This topic can bring out some pretty unpleasent garbage from people.

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