Comments on: Precautionary Principles, The Local Version https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2005/12/28/precautionary-principles-the-local-version/ Culture, Politics, Academia and Other Shiny Objects Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:20:01 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.15 By: Caleb https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2005/12/28/precautionary-principles-the-local-version/comment-page-1/#comment-977 Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:20:01 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=131#comment-977 Tangentially related anecdote: One Christmas as a child, my wife asked her parents for a “magic wand.” They couldn’t get any other suggestions for gifts out of her because, by her logic, if she had a magic wand she could simply create anything else she wanted. My in-laws found some kind of baton and wrapped it up for her, but I’m told there were many tears when she discovered that the wand was “broken.” I also believe that there is home video of her hitting the family dog with the wand … to turn it into a pony, of course.

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By: bbenzon https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2005/12/28/precautionary-principles-the-local-version/comment-page-1/#comment-976 Thu, 29 Dec 2005 13:56:18 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=131#comment-976 So, what’s going on? Don’t really know, but did a little thinking.

At some point in our lives we learn to “index” experiences to the “frames” in which we have those experiences. Beyond that, we begin to figure out how the various frames — real life, movies, TV news, game shows, etc. — are related to one another. [And a few of us go on to get advanced degrees and then this whole system falls apart. But that’s another matter.]

But this frame business is not very well developed in young children. What your daughter knows about the movies is that she’s never seen anyone or anything leave the movie-screen and come into the audience, nor has she ever seen anyone leave the audience and walk into the movie world. She’s never seen any of that. Further, when she’s at the movies, she’s with mommy and or daddy, who therefor make the movie theater a safe zone.

But things are different at home when she unwraps a present and all of a sudden she see’s something that existed in movieland when she first saw it. But it’s not in movieland any more. It’s escaped and is right HERE NOW in her home. As long as she was in the theater that physical setting and the whole ritual of going there protected her. All that stuff WAS her MOVIE FRAME. Without that physical and social stuff, her movie frame is very fragile. So maybe that Zathura game she just opened might be real. In any event, no point in taking chances. Not on Christmas.

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Why’d all those people believe the Orson Welles War of the World’s broadcast? They missed the frame.

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Goffman discusses this sort of thing in Frame Analysis.

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By: joeo https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2005/12/28/precautionary-principles-the-local-version/comment-page-1/#comment-975 Wed, 28 Dec 2005 20:42:13 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=131#comment-975 Somebody got someone from my office this game for secret santa. There ought to be a word for a useless item that is acceptable as a gift, but no one in there right mind would buy for themselves.

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By: barry https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2005/12/28/precautionary-principles-the-local-version/comment-page-1/#comment-974 Wed, 28 Dec 2005 20:40:00 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=131#comment-974 That is cuter than all get out.

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By: bbenzon https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2005/12/28/precautionary-principles-the-local-version/comment-page-1/#comment-972 Wed, 28 Dec 2005 16:51:21 +0000 http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?p=131#comment-972 And it doesn’t happen only to young children.

I saw Rosemary’s Baby when it was first released. I was in my middle to late teens. I knew perfectly well that devils did not exist in this world, much less could they mate with human females so that the women could give birth to devil children. But somehow that movie got past my rational defense lines and creeped me out. Totally.

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